Wednesday, January 30, 2008

If McCain wins I'm moving to Canada



These are not my words, although I can see that Jamie heartily seconds them. :)

I was sitting in Minneapolis waiting for my flight and staring at the TV which was of course spewing politics, when the man across from me suddenly turned to look at the TV, flipped his head back to me and angrily said, "If McCain wins I'm moving to Canada."

I told him with the way things were moving, I feared he might want to start looking in to the cost of property there. Luckily he was from Michigan, so he didn't have to far to trek. He might even be able to commute back to his job. Cause folks, it ain't looking good for Romney. I think with the Florida loss (and not even splitting the delegates) plus all the haters in the GOP who are dropping out and giving there support and delegates to McCain that the end may be near. I still think anything is possible (that's for my brother Shawn who is very angry at all the people who just believe the media that it's over) but truth be told it doesn't look great.

I was very interested to see all the comments that my last post provoked, even bringing a few closet blalkers out--Tiffany you know who you are--and a couple passionate comments.

I think it's quite clear who the strongest Republican is among our friends, and I won't name any names, but I've met her parents and the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. ;) I appreciate the other side Aly, keep it coming.

So, it's time to vote. I'm curious who would win if the vote was today of the top 4 contenders across parties. Don't follow my example people--I'd like everyone's vote to count. If just the regulars vote, I think we know the winner. Let's get our finger on the political pulse of my readership.

Because I'm always trying to learn more about the candidates as well and I'm still open to change, I'd love to hear more about WHY you choose who you choose too. It's been interesting to hear people only give the reason, "Romney just looks more presidential" or "McCain is too old." Give me the goods.

12 comments:

JP said...

I'm a big Romney fan too, however after the results in Florida and the endorsements today, it looks like McCain will be the man. The one thing conservatives should keep in mind is that McCain is the only candidate that when matched up with Hillary, who will end up getting the nomination, actually beats her and that is after all the objective. I've been bad mouthing McCain for years, but it looks like I'm going to have to eat my words and throw my support behind him to keep Hil the hag out of the White House.

Kris said...

I was actually the one that made the comment that I would move to Canada...but Jamie might feel that way too, I'm not sure. ( :

I think McCain is a joke...and not a funny one either (which is unfortunate, cause we all know that I like a good joke). Like you said, it's not looking good for Romney. This election is shaping up to be a disaster.

Amy said...

I actually watched the debate and almost had to turn it off when McCain wouldn't shut up about the "buzzword" of timetable that Romney used. He reminds me of one of those little dogs who barks incessantly. I do think he has worked hard for the country, but as a person I really struggle to find any love for him.

Until the Florida primaries, the idea of a McCain/Hillary matchup hadn't hit me. It sunk in that night, and it has been so hard to think of another election where I'm just picking the person I dislike the least!

jamie said...

Unfortunately, I too think we are looking at a McCain/Hilary matchup and I'm beginning to believe that either we Americans just don't care or we're just so lazy that we'd rather have our media decide our fate for us than actually figure out what we want. I'm really bugged with the media right now. McCain is their love child and he's reaping the benefits of their adulation. I didn't start out as a Romney fan, but I am now. The economy is my biggest concern and Romney is the only one that has the experience, proven time and time again, to turn a trainwreck into a goldmine. Give him our economy! McCain is a democrat. He bashes the private sector while living off his father-in-law's dime, who has made millions by living the american dream. I actually don't care for Senators as a whole. They spew promises that they can't keep. The days of public service for the good of the public is gone. I might be off the deep end, but I'm waiting for someone to prove me wrong. Do I think Romney is without flaw? NO! But I think he's the least flawed choice we have. I don't know if this makes any sense, but that's my two cents. And Aly, I 100% agree with you, all this socialist talk from Hilary and Obama is frightening. But I really can't handle McCain...And I do agree with Kris and the man at the airport, Canada is looking better and better.

Tiffany said...

Thanks for calling me out, Shauri. You shouldn't have been surprised that your political comments would bring me out of the wood work. Okay, I wrote about half of what I’m thinking about and it turned into a REALLY long post. So, just the highlights.

So, why would I vote for Romney? On the big issues (taxes, education, foreign policy, federal spending, abortion), I generally agree with Romney. I also like that he has extensive financial experience to bring new ideas to stimulate the economy. I think its really important that he has executive branch experience as Governor in Massachusetts (a state with a traditionally strong/powerful Governor). Finally, I'm fine with the policy shifts (flip-flops according to the media) he's made in the past year or so. I believe it shows true character to say "Yes, I changed my mind after considering the issue again." So, those are some of my thoughts on Romney.

beliquits said...

Sadly, all the folks that I originally strongly agreed with have already officially dropped out. That being said, I'm staring down the remaining candidates tapping my lips and having to decide which of the issues are the most important to me.

The latest issue of the New Yorker had a very very interesting piece comparing Hillary and Barack and their vantage points of the ROLE of the presidency. It was supposed to be a pro-Hillary piece, and she did get a huge lions share of the coverage; the synopsis seems to be that they are kind of polar opposites where Hillary sees the position as very very administrative, and Barack sees the position more as a way to engender reform from a more grassroots level. Given the fact that either one would be firsts (a woman president or a black president) I think it's REALLY interesting that they fell out on the sides of the spectrum that they did. Maybe not surprising if you think about it, really, but it is interesting if you ask me.

That being said, the next presidency to me is going to be critical just based on further defining the role of the presidency, especially since the previous one had done so much in reshaping it (unitary executive, anyone?). I think it's been a while since we had someone who could inspire people enough to try to implement change at a social grassroots level. True, I'm not a fan of how sketchy the details of his plans are. And that still doesn't have me 100% sold; charisma alone isn't really enough to run things. But I have to say that I am drawn to a person who can make me feel hopeful.


Romney isnt bad, even if he did get lanced rather effectively on his latest trend of the unbuttoned collar and rolled up sleeves. I am far from a single issue voter, but the stance on DOMA sunk him for me. His tax platform is interesting since his solution is that it's too complicated, and yet everything I've heard him say about health care to me sounds like he would send that in the opposite direction. So I dunno. I don't hate him.

Given the current state of things, that might be saying a lot more than it otherwise would. :)

Garrett said...

I am writing in for Beliquits. If not this year, 2012.

Aly said...

From what I can gather, if Hillary wins, the US could become a little more like Canada in terms of military weakness, government-run healthcare, and a lot of the illegal immigrants that have gone there coming back here so maybe you can just stay here for those luxuries. ;-) Yes, I understand the hyperbole of the statement and the feeling of wanting to escape all this, but I heart the US!

I do like Romney best, but as Shauri predicted, I would vote for the most conservative choice I have, even if that ends up being McCain, who came across as a grumpy broken-record in the debates last night. His published policies are still preferable to me over the alternative.

I do appreciate Obama's eloquence. I love how he pauses to think about a question, and then answers with seeming sincerity more often than sound bites. I like that he can inspire people. I'm just disappointed that someone so measured in his demeanor is so liberal in his policies. I like to think that Obama would be more moderate in practice and in working with people of a different viewpoint, but as it stands now Hillary looks slightly more moderate on paper to me. Maybe that is just her showing more experience playing the game.

For example, a telling quote from Hillary during this primary after her comeback win in NH (not verbatim): I listened to the people, and in the process I found my own voice.

My interpretation: I just said what you wanted to hear, and you fell for it!

I really don't want four more years of the Clintons, and JP is right. In current polls, McCain is the only candidate that beats her. Waaah!

Tiffany said...

Just a FYI for those who said they'd vote for Obama if McCain won the nomination. According to ratings by the National Journal, Obama was the most liberal senator for 2007. Hillary ranks in 16th place after coming in 32nd in 2006.

So, Obama may be an interesting candidate, but his voting record shows a pretty solid propensity for liberal policies.

Unknown said...

Wow, just yesterday I was asked if I know any republicans. Apparently I do ...

And I'm really surprised it's been hard for Amy to remember when the last time was we voted for someone we disliked the least. (Bush/Kerry anyone? -- am I alone in this crazy little world of mine???)

I find Obama inpsiring and I think his policies match my own voting tendencies. I have started to like Hillary a lot more, and would prolly choose her over McCain, but my loyalty for Romney has grown over the last two weeks -- and like Shauri it's driving me crazy.

If anyone wants to be convinced that Obama would be agreat choice, feel free to reach out to me ...

Aly said...

Abram, I'm reaching out. You know I admire "the most liberal senator" Obama for his eloquence, but why shouldn't I be freaked out by his policies? You can refer to my comment on Shauri's previous post for one economic example. In terms of foreign policy, he comes across as a little naiive. Kristin has my email address.

EFN Newsletter said...

I think she meant she didn't want another election where she was choosing between the lesser of two evils, like last time... correct me if I'm wrong Amy.

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